Calculating Rotor Temp for Generator via Excitation Voltage and Excitation Current

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CTM151282

Hi All,

I need help to calculate the rotor temperature of the 85 MVA generator by means of excitation voltage and excitation current. Any can suggest the formula to implement in the logics.
 
P
CTM... the calculation is extremely complicated.

If you need a relatively accurate Temperature Value there is a much simpler approach. Interested?

Regards,
Phil Corso
 
P
CTM… using my GiFiES (pronounced "Jiffys") technique:

Given:
Excitation Volts, Vx @ Alternator Load(x).
Excitation Amps, Ax @ " "
Excitation Power, Px @ " "
Rotor Resistance, Rx @ " "
Rotor Resistance, Ro @ Temperature To.

Find:
Operating Temp, Tx, associated with Alternator Load(x)!

Equations:
a) Vx = Excitation, Volts.
b) Ax = Excitation Current, Amps.
c) Px = Vx*Ax or (Vx)^2/Rx, Watts
d) Solving for Rx yields, (Vx)^2/Px
e) Tx = [(Rx/Ro)*(Kcu+To)]–Kcu, where Ku is a material-constant; 234.5 for copper!
f) Tx = [(Vx)^2/(Px*Ro)]*[234.5+To]-­234.5

Solution:
Consider a large 2-pole machine where: To = 40ᵒ C; Ro=0.096 Ω; Vx=200V; Px=300kW. Then Tx=[(200^2)/(300,000*0.096)]*(234.5+40)-234.5, or about 147ᵒ C.

CTM151282... Caveat:
The above presumes no-load excitation-current is zero! In fact, it could be higher than 30% of the machines nominal rating. Thus, if you are using the machine’s design Ro, determined for a specific temperature, then a correction must be made covering the no-load case!

Regards,
Phil
 
Thank you so much Mr. Phil Corso

Regards
CTM

> Correction to my earlier post:

> e) Tx = [(Rx/Ro)*(Kcu+To)] –- Kcu,
 
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