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Ken Crater

Hi all,
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Curt Wuollet

Ladder++ ? :^)


root wrote:
> Some things that might be useful IMHO:
> The ladder program tagname, instruction comment and rung comment databases
> should be integrated into the PLC itself, rather than stored only on the PLC
> ladder programming application database (I've had to work on many machines that
> have had the orginal database file lost - what a major pain it is to try to
> reconstruct someone's old code from raw ladder and seriously out of date
> electrical drawings!). Long tagnames with strange characters should also be
> supported - like " )" for instance.
> Many different types of data types should be supported in the ladder language
> (reals, shorts, longs, string, structures, arrays as well as the usual int and
> bool).
> The machine integrator should have the ability to create their own special
> purpose ladder instructions from their own C code with going through undo
> coding hardships.
> The ladder language should support many ladder program tasks, each of which
> should have its own local variables (by alias, not hard data file reference!),
> its own data type (maybe a structure named the same as the task name) to support
> identification of attributes and methods, and each task should be configurable
> as to its scan time and relative priority to other ladder tasks.
> For HMI/SCADA functions on non-speed critical machinery/processes, how about
> providing the machine integrator the option of using a stripped down web server
> running java servlets on the PLC. Web browsers are everywhere and can make a
> fair (and cheap!) HMI/data collection window into certain types of machines and
> processes.
> On another note, it might be wise to keep in mind that the open source PLC
> being developed here could also be used for the PLC side of a CNC. This would
> require fair amounts of memory to be shared synchronously with the CNC at
> relatively fast speeds (5 to 10 milliseconds for at least a portion of the
> ladder). It would also require fairly sophisticated floating point ladder
> instructions.
> A number of posts have mentioned that they are a little rusty on C coding to be
> able to support this project directly, but that they have been coding on the
> integrators side of things for some time. There could be a parallel effort to
> develop a large library of open source ladder example code which would be
> provided with the open source ladder programming IDE. How many times have we
> coded up ladder to control a cylinder of one type or another? A little thought
> to object definition and encapsulation would create some very useful code
> libraries. That would be a great feature for machine integrators.
> Alan Locke
> Controls engineer, Boeing
> "My opinions are my own and not necessarily that of my employer"
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