Time Sync


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Bill Code

Good Day Listers,

Does anyone know what happened to GetTime software?

We have used it in the past. Now we wish to buy another licence for another application and can neither raise their web site nor get responses from their email addresses.

And it seems that the software has disappeared from shareware sites.

Thanks in advance,

Bill Code
MPM Engineering Ltd.
4-6240 202nd St., Langley, B.C., Canada, V2Y-1N2
Phone: 1-604-534-6605 Fax: 1-604-534-6693
E-Mail: [email protected] WWW: http://WWW.MPM-ENG.COM/

MORON, Olivier

Hello again Bill,

There is also the possibility to request 'time sync' from the Software And Automation Technology Search Engine at http://saatse.tripod.com with the request "time sync" with an "AND search", there are 13 web sites answering to this request. May you find what you are looking for in one of them.

This is equivalent to the following request


Olivier Moron

R&D Project Manager
My personal web site http://saatse.tripod.com

Kinner, Russ

I have no information on GetTime, but I do have 2 other software packages that might work to get accurate time information. I have used both

Dimension 4 is freeware that will obtain time data from most sources on the Internet. It does need access to ports that may be inaccessible because of your firewall configuration, so it may not work in all installations. I tend to leave firewall settings as restrictive as I can so I only use D4 in dial-up mode when I am on the road. I don't see any simple way to configure
this software to act as a time server on a local network so you would have to use other means to set individual clocks or have all PCs ask for time via the Internet periodically.

To use Dimension 4 you need:
Windows 95, or Windows NT 4.0 (don't know about Windows Me or 2000)
32 bit TCP/IP Winsock 1.1 or above (e.g. Windows 95 Dial-Up Networking)
Internet access
4 MB+ system memory
1 MB+ free hard disk space

YATS32 (Yet Another Time Synchronizer) is a shareware application that has a nominal fee for use as both a means to reset your local PC clock and allows a local PC to be a time server on a network. It can use your Internet server port 80 and access time sources using http:, so most firewalls are not a limiting factor for its use. Note that if you do access the time signal in this way, the accuracy is limited to 1 second resolution.

YATS32 normally runs as a standard 32 bit Windows 95 or NT application. In addition, it will also run as a service under Windows NT.


Russ Kinner
AVCA Corporation
Maumee, OH USA
We use Dimension 4 successfully with our own GPS based network time server (Datum2100L) for our WinNT 4 SCADA system and throughout the business IT network.

The only thing we cant do is seem to get Dimension 4 to survive logon/logoff of users in NT. We have it installed as a service but it crashes on user change over, we need a NT guru !

Dave Ferguson

The Windows NT resource kit, if this is the OS you are using and I assume W2K have a service called W32TIME which replaces an old service called I believe timesync. I do not know if it is also free on the MS web site but it comes in the resource kit or with Technet.

This allows you to sync computers as Master, Primary or Secondary time servers. It will allow you to go to an atomic source on the Internet or use an internal "master" clock as a time server. You can have a master and then multiple Primary servers. you can have the clocks sync on login or at regular time intervals. There are a couple of small gotchas like the default right to change time is to Power Users or Administrators so you need to change this. There is also a utility to change this right across the network and to also start/stop the service across the network also available in resource kit and ?? on web site.

I use this for all my MMI's and also for all Microsoft servers to maintain the same time throughout the organization. Very easy to setup, search MS site for W32time.........

Or e-mail off site for more info.....hope this helps..........

Dave Ferguson
Blandin Paper
DAVCO Automation

William Irish

There has been a lot of discussion about time syncronization lately. The most bullet proof methods I have used are to get the shareware utility Tardis for Windows, see the link below. Tardis will sync to many sources, Internet and
GPS included. This can and will reliably run as an NT service. A companion program called K9, same location, will run as a service on NT machines that are only time clients. The client K9 app is only about 9K and syncs up once a minute.

try http://www.kaska.demon.co.uk/

Bill Irish

Dave Ferguson

See my reply on W32time an NT utility for time sync. The "right" to change time is by default assigned to only power users and administrators, you need to add the users you want to this right.

Dave Ferguson
Blandin Paper Company
DAVCO Automation
The NT4.0 Resource Kit has everything one needs to sync time between various machines. It runs on NT Workstations as a service, which obviates any need for users to reset time. Timeserv can synchronize to any other computer in a domain, or head out to the internet and one of the many clocks out there.

If you can't run your time sync software as a service, you've got to go look at the user that the time service is installed under. You say you've "installed it as a service"... does that mean you used the resource kit utility (srvany?) to turn any program into a service? That only work for very simple tasks that aren't expecting any display, keyboard, or anything.
Hi Dave,

Re your reply below. The users that are logging ON and OFF while Dimension4 is running as a service are members of the NT Administrators group. Are you saying that the "right" to change time has to be given to each user individually rather than assuming they get permission by being members of the Administrators group ?


Neil Firmin
Yallourn Energy Pty Ltd.
If Dimension4 is running as a service, its NOT running under any of the user accounts. Open up the Services control panel, pick any service, and you'll see that a service can be set to Log On As as a specific account. Now, many services are setup to run as the local system account. This works fine when dealing with things on the local PC, however, the local system account has NO rights at all on a network. Therefore, if you have a service that has to deal with something outside of the specific machine, what you've got to do is create a user in the domain that has all the appropriate rights, and set the service to log on as this user. For example, I have two servers here. As a cheap way of data-redundancy, I have a backup server duplicate a drive on the primary server every 4 hours or so (using Robocopy, which is smart enough to only copy things that have changed). To do that, I utilized the Scheduler service. The Scheduler service is by default set to run under the
System Account, and this account has no rights to access the primary server. So I created an account with permissions necessary to access the drives on both servers, gave this account full access on the backup server, and set the Scheduler service to log in as this user. This account can't log in at a console anywhere.

In short, services should run irregardless of who is logged in at the console.

Alex Pavloff
Software Engineer
Eason Technology

Dave Ferguson

If they are members of the administrators group, they should be ok, but are they "local" administrators or domain administrators. I am not at my NT box and I cannot remember if it is in server manager or user manager but there is a "rights" selection in a drop down menu that is like the 2nd or 3rd drop down menu. Then there are a bunch or rights and one of them is to change
time(you have to scroll down to this right), the NT default is to administrators or power users only so that is why I asked. Domain Users who
are not local administrators of their machines cannot by default change their time..........

There are "local" administrators and domain administrators but if the users are administrators they should be ok, If they are domain admin's, you need to look under the administrators group and make sure that domain admins are part of local administrators (usually the default.

Gotta love that NT, I just read my reply and I think I am confused now :)

Sometimes services are set to log in as certain users and this may be an issue, look at the services in control panel and go to your service and see what is there........

Hard to diagnose without being in front of it.......sorry.


Dave Ferguson

See my first post which basically says the same thing you are saying only a little more detail......


Dave Ferguson