Upgrading old Simatic Industrial Ethernet

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Babak Najafabadipour

Hi everybody,

We have an old HMI system based on Windows NT 4 and Wincc 5 that monitors S5 PLCs. The system uses CP1430 communication cards in the PLC racks and CP 1413 in the PC side. It also uses a big star cuppler hub and many transceivers in its configuration. Our problem relate to upgrading the old PCs. They are working for many years and we decide to upgrade them. We also should use Windows 2000 or XP because many of new mother board and VGA drivers don't exist for Windows NT4 workstation operating system. Also the current communication cards in the old PCs are ISA model that doesn't exist on new PCs.

The question exists are:
1. Can I use normal ethernet cards (the ethernet port exists on almost all pc motherboards today), with normal hubs and AUI to RJ45 converters (CP1430 only have AUI port) for upgrading the system?
2. What is the best upgrading solution for doing this task (upgrading PCs and network)?

Many thanks before for your help.

B.Najafabadipour
 
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Shahid Waqas

You can use the CP1613 from Siemens. It supports the S5 communication, and has both RJ45 as well as 15-port interfaface connection. You can re-use the existing transeivers and network.

However, if you are upgrading to new PLC (which I believe you should, since S5 is already on the siemens obsolence list), then you should upgrade to S7, and use the more simpler and better TCP/IP ethernet.

BR,
Shahid
 
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Daniel Chartier

Hello;
Have a look at this product, recomended by Siemens as an Ethernet protocol converter:

http://www.inat.de/index.php?255&backPID=255&tt_products=308&L=1

On this Siemens link, there is a posting on the Echochange converter:
http://support.automation.siemens.c...odeid0=10805045

There are imitations, but it seems to convert S5 Ethernet (Siemens H1) to TCP/IP, so it could resolve your WinCC issues.

Hope this helps,
Daniel Chartier
 
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