Wireless Tank Level Monitoring

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ehsan

Am looking for companies who offer Wireless Tank Level Monitoring solutions/systems in North America. Is wireless tank level monitoring an advantage? What are the advantages? Can i develop it myself? What kind of technology and skills will i require if i have to develop a Wireless Tank Level Monitoring System for my organization?

ehsan

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Bjorn

That depends on what kind of level you want to meassure.
Most liquid levels can be measured with a radar level transmitter and than we have ultrasonic sound but that's often more convenient when measuring solids and stuff like that.

But why not check with Emerson Process, Endress & Hausser, Vega, Mobrey or someone of their competators?

The skills and technologies i guess depend on what material, but I can't help you there.

Best Regards & good Luck!
Bjorn

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The Landaus

Take a look at these companies. Some of them have 4-20 mA units which you can attach a loop powered level transmitter.

*Wireless Temperature Sensors*

*Vendor*
*Product*
*Battery Life*
*Range*

Inovonics
FA7236
900 MHz Frequency Hopping, Spread Spectrum
Up to 5 years
2500 feet open range
http://www.inovonics.com/wirelessTemperature/temperatureProducts.jsp

Johnson Controls
Wireless Temperature Sensing System
900 MHz Frequency Hopping, Spread Spectrum
Up to 8 years
200 feet
http://cgproducts.johnsoncontrols.com/met_pdf/1171100.pdf

Oregon Scientific
THN138
433 MHz
100 feet
http://www2.oregonscientific.com/cablefree/thn138.html

Point Six Point Sensor
418 MHz
Up to 5 years
600 feet
http://www.pointsix.com/cgi-bin/PointSix.cgi?Point_Sensors

TRS Systems
WT1630
5+ years
500 feet

Xanboo
XTS165
418 MHz
1 year
60 feet
http://www.xanboo.com/xanproducts/temperaturesensor.htm

Steve Landau

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ControlNovice

The advantage is cost savings in installation. No, or very little, wiring is needed.

Disadvantage could be: battery maintenance, maintenance fees (see Xsilogy below), not continuous readings.

Developing one yourself? I tip my hat to you. I think with the time you would invest in making sure it is reliable, you'd be better off just using something that has been proven.

We've used Barton and Xsilogy.

Barton's is either radar or ultrasonic (I don't remember), but they send the level signal once every 10 or 15 minutes to a reciever. So, the level is not instantaneous. They also have limits on the height of the tank. The reciever can be tied to a computer, or (I think), tied into a PLC or DCS.

Xsilogy is similar, but I haven't worked with them. I do know they only offer service through them. The tank level signals go to a reciever that is tied to a server class PC. Then it is tied to Xsilogy's server, where the information is displayed on an internet web page that only you can access.

ControlNovice

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Greg DeRudder

Please visit http://www.monitortech.com and submit the appropriate application questionnaire(s). If you email me directly, I will be be able to help you in a more efficient manner. We do have wireless solutions available depending on the application.

[email protected]

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Anonymous

By wireless tank level monitoring, I assume you are talking about a remote telemetry unit. There are many vendors out there that will provide a complete system. One is Microcomm, another is Omnex, along with many others. Yes you can do it yourself, with some gotchas. FCC licensing may be one you need to investigate depending on the method of transmission.

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Matthew Hyatt

Try searching the internet for the multitude of companies who provide this type of solution.

Off the shelf Milltonics Ultra-sonic probes with a secure web based application which provides data via, wirelss, sat. or land line connection is available right now.

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Anonymous

There are several companies devoted to do telemetry using GPRS, with this technology you can do monitoring, control, database.

If you wish we can give you some help.

ISCONET S.A.
SOUTHAMERICA
593 4 2820063
593 4 2828214
CELL:593 9 7003188

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dk6

A simple solution for me is:

you can out a PLC with analog inputs to look the level of the tanks. The PLC must have a LAN interface to connect it with a wireless access point. Then with a simple IP you can monitor the levels from your PC local network... where ever you are...in the world, by internet ;-)

Wireless access points with external antennas can establish communication in a very long distance...

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Daniel Vila

Wireless communication is not directly related with Tank Gauging/Monitoring systems. It is just anoter way to communicate data from the field to the control room, and vice versa... There are many "wireless devices" that you can hook up to your level gauge and send the information to your inventory system.

You may check at http://www.enrafinc.com. They are tank gauging manufacturers and have had experience with wireless projects....

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marc sinclair

Hi,

Can't let this one go, Wireless access points are of VERY limited use in a manufacturing environment. I can't get a good quality unit to connect to the next room in a dairy full of stainless steel and cables. also stone walls are a BIG absorber of 2.4 Ghz, My home has 75cm stone walls, one is enough to cut off ALL signal. I would limit the use to line of sight, probably 25m or so for full speed.

Hasn't it struck anyone why such a brilliant idea as wireless networking hasn't taken off in a big way? the protocol is a dog's breakfast and most ms implementations are flaky, great for surfing in the garden though

--
Marc Sinclair
http://www.germainesystems.co.uk

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Glen Sprouse - ACSYS Technologies

We do. We are a system integrator firm (part of a larger group of four companies located in the Memphis, TN, Jackson, TN and Atlanta, GA areas). We provide process control and process monitoring solutions for the food and beverage industry (particularly the brewing industry). We have developed several turn-key solutions for wireless monitoring of tank levels throughout facilities using radar, microwave and laser technology. We even provide the front end SCADA and HMI components as well as interfacing to existing SCADA and DCS systems.

Roswell, GA 30076
1-866-642-1660

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Stephen Anderson

Hello ehsan,

I've called the remote tank monitoring market my home since the late 90's. I have since started my own company after being part of various development teams out of Silicon Valley and beyond.

Many would say they have mastered this application. However, I've seen $Billion companies decisively miss targets and then miss them again. In general, there are many more pitfalls than anyone would ever imagine. To answer your question, the best solution is one that fits your needs. Not having all of your system, application and business requirements all I can say is try to look at the following six parameters and see which developer or application service company can meet your needs: if questions, email me: [email protected] 1. What is in the tank? Fuel-intrinsinically safe, chemicals-caustic or acid. Essentially this is a question related to sensor/hardware optimization. 2. How is the sensor best integrated? Top-Ultrasonic, Bottom-Differential Presssure, flow meter-in/out, Contact-high/low or overflow. Any multiple tanks/site? 3. LAN or WAN communication? If your tank is proximal to a LAN, can you 802.xx, WiFi, short haul RF, or hardwire? If remote do you need analog cellular, GPRS/CDMA, Satellite or combination? 4. Power. If local, can you hardwire or battery operate? If remote, can you battery operate or do you need solar charging? 5. Communication frequency? Continuous one way or two way, minutely, hourly, daily, monthly, alarm(usually high or low level) activated. 6. Cost. Yes, there are inexpensive hardware choices, but beware of the burdens created elsewhere like maintenance and installation. 7. Installaion. some applications are self installed, some require 3rd and 4th party installation teams. Enjoy your journey, -S.Anderson J John Parker Look at Accutech's truly innovative wireless approach. http://www.savewithaccutech.com Unlike other Industrial Wireless companies, our extensive experience in robust instrumentation has been applied to the industry’s first innovative product line of wireless instrumentation and monitoring solutions. We offer a broad line of integrated systems that include sensors for pressure, temperature, acoustic and multi-input devices directly coupled with 900 MHz ISM license-free frequency hopping spread spectrum technologies that are powered with an economical field replaceable battery that has up to 5 years of battery life. In addition to being economical compared to other wired smart instrumentation we are also differentiated by our transmission range up to 3,000 feet and include the industrial certification for FM rated intrinsically safe for Class I/II/III, Division I and II units. D Don Chidester In response to your wireless level transmitter. Do you have an transmitter with an analog output that I can wire to my PLC. The tank being monitored is a rather small tank approximately 30 inches deep by 22 inches wide. Please let me know. A Anonymous Take a look at these Telemetry PLC Modules with GSM/GPRS modems inside, with network possibilities, and a free unique OPC Server that can automatic receive and handle alarms on events from the modules. The OPC server works with minimal traffic to reduce traffic costs. Serial port for communication and mapping of local PLCs. They are very useful when you want to have control over small sites without any geographic limits. http://WWW.Temytech.com J John Bosch Remote application management introduced an application for managing and reading tank levels, the Global Level management module GLM. This module enables you as customer to measure the contents of large numbers of tanks on location. This actual level will be presented by a matrix and/or graphically via the internet. This information can be used by a purchase department to order new filling on the right moment in time. Also with this information a supplier is able to plan his route at the most efficient way. With this sophisticated hardware and application software, considerable savings could be realised on logistical costs and stocks. Downtime coursed by an empty tank is history and a refill of a tank only occurs when necessary. The system also could be used by maximum levels when a tank is filled. This system measures not only liquid levels but could also be used for other materials like weed, cement, etc. As expressed before the levels are shown in graphics and matrixes by means of Internet. Graphs by location and a overview in matrix layout of all selected locations. By means of the matrix and the (free) adjustable alarm levels gives a fast view of the desired quantity product by location. See for an example http://www.technologytrading-data.nl Account Wiersma (capital W) Password Germ (capital G) For a live graphic click on the information row. A Anonymous Hi Can you give me the name and address of the company that does this remote monitoring system. A Anonymous For a complete all in one solution over GSM radio you can use the TBOX LT-200GE. This unit uses the Cellualar GSM network and GPRS wireless internet prototocl. No license required just a GSM SIM card account for around$20 a month. The unit offers a plc, datalogger, alarming system and mini scada and embedded radio modem all in one.

See more at http://www.TBOX.US

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Anonymous

World Telemetry has a battery powered, Intrinsically safe automatic tank gauging system with internet connectivity.

Innovative Sensor Solutions also has a battery powered intrinsically safe tank gauge for larger storage tanks.