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GE Mark VI/VIe HMI and Software Questions
Kevin, As I've said, I'm not really an expert by any stretch of the imagination on all the "background" stuff for HMIs. While it can be a real struggle to get all the communications between HMIs and Mark VIs/Mark VIes working correctly, when it does work it works very well. I've been to quite...
CSA
Post #4
Jul 11, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
Getting a better understanding of gas turbine control
Batman, I likely didn't address your explanation of what's happening--but it's basically correct. 1) L4 must go to a logic "1" in order to start the turbine, and it must remain a logic "1" in order to keep fuel flowing to the turbine once flame is established. 2) When the unit is at...
CSA
Post #59
Jul 11, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
DLN1 facing secondary flame out during premix to lean lean
SSV, The process is that when TTRF1 drops below the Premix-to-Lean-Lean transfer point drop-out temperature the ignitors ("spark plugs") are energized for a short period of time, and the gas fuel splitter valve moves from its Premix fuel split position (usually approximately 80% primary) to...
CSA
Post #2
Jul 11, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
Dew Point temperature of Natural Gas
Lucky, I would imagine the turbines at your site have DLN-I combustors, because that's usually the only reason for heating natural gas--to prevent condensation of natural gas liquids which can lead to primary zone re-ignitions which means emissions can't be minimized because the turbine won't...
CSA
Post #2
Jul 11, 2014
Forum:
General Automation Chat
FSR Startup Temperature
saha, Please follow the CQTC signal from the input to the FSRSUV1 block back to where it is calculated and I believe you will find that it a value that is derived from the axial compressor <i>inlet</i> temperature, not from the axial compressor discharge temperature. If I recall correctly...
CSA
Post #2
Jul 11, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
Getting a better understanding of gas turbine control
Batman, L4Y is used in other rungs, not just L4S. The reason there is a timer at all is to prevent what's called a "relay race" during very "busy" times when L4 is changing state from "1" to "0". I honestly don't know why it's set for 1.0 seconds, but I know it works. And I know that...
CSA
Post #58
Jul 11, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
Cannot Print alarms from MKVI control system
Nguyen Thanh Son, The Mark VI turbine control panel broadcasts alarms and events on the UDH. In the case of a GE Mark VI HMI, TCI (the GE proprietary MS-Windows service that runs on the HMI) is responsible for "picking-up" the broadcast alarms and events, displaying them to the Alarm...
CSA
Post #5
Jul 11, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
difference between AFQ & AFQD signals for GE turbine
Ali, Thanks very much for the feedback! Also, congratulations on finding the problem!
CSA
Post #4
Jul 10, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
Calibrating SRV with HR pump
H.A.R., There have been sites that have successfully used some additional tubing sections and fittings to reconnect the Hydraulic Ratchet pump to supply oil to the hydraulic oil system for stroking ("calibrating") LVDTs. I don't personally recommend doing so, as many Hydraulic Ratchet pumps...
CSA
Post #2
Jul 10, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
Getting a better understanding of gas turbine control
Neo, I think it will be best if we examine most every trip condition--not all of them--but probably most of them. They are very useful in understanding what conditions lead to a turbine trip from the controllers (<R>, <S> and <T>). You are avoiding answering the question about why you...
CSA
Post #56
Jul 10, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
GE Gas Turbine IGV angle
Neo, Here are the kind of questions one should ask after a careful reading of the original post: When was the control system upgraded to Mark V? When did this problem start? After a maintenance outage? After a trip from load? What Process Alarms are active during starting? What...
CSA
Post #9
Jul 10, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
Getting a better understanding of gas turbine control
Batman, Good on you for expanding your knowledge; it's very helpful for mechanical engineers to understand how turbines operate, too, not just to know how to turn a wrench or orient an orifice plate. I believe you found a typographical error in my post (something I had just chided Neo for...
CSA
Post #55
Jul 10, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
Cannot Print alarms from MKVI control system
Nguyen Thanh Son, I forgot a simple "test": Have you used the 'Print a Test Page' feature of the Alarm Logger printer properties of MS-Windows to see if it can print a test page?
CSA
Post #3
Jul 9, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
Magnetic pickup - amplitude or frequency
Ramana, There is a lot of good and applicable information in the previous posts to this thread. Many times, manufacturers post a lot of very useful generic technical information about their products trying to demonstrate how theirs is better than others. Don't neglect such information...
CSA
Post #11
Jul 9, 2014
Forum:
Sensors & Calibration
GE Mark VI/VIe HMI and Software Questions
Kevin, Welcome to the world of Speedtronic turbine control systems in the age of Mark VI and Mark VIe. Good on you for reading the available documentation as you begin your learning. It's not really clear what your job will be working with the Mark VI/Mark VIe.... 1) I'm not quite sure...
CSA
Post #2
Jul 9, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
Getting a better understanding of gas turbine control
Neo, Let's back up just a minute, please, and explain why you wanted to remove L94SD from the L60RB rung. As for L4T--yes; it's much more involved as it has most of the critical protection for the turbine and auxiliaries in it, so it's going to take a while. That should be okay, though...
CSA
Post #52
Jul 8, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
Cannot Print alarms from MKVI control system
Nguyen Thanh Son, I thought I posted a detailed set of questions yesterday, but it seems to have gotten lost in the Great Bit Bucket of the ethos. This will be decidedly less detailed. If Process Alarms are visible in the CIMPLICITY Alarm Window, then alarms are being broadcast by the Mark...
CSA
Post #2
Jul 8, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
MARK-VIE SOE ALARM
Vimal Gupta, Yes; more information is required. Usually, it's necessary to ground one lead of the multimeter (set to AC) and then measure each of the DC leads with respect to ground. Only when the AC voltage is excessive will an AC voltage measurement from the positive DC lead to the...
CSA
Post #6
Jul 8, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
difference between AFQ & AFQD signals for GE turbine
Ali, Without being able to see the application code running in the Mark VI at your site, it's rather difficult to say with any certainty--but we can make some presumptions and point you in the proper direction to understand the difference. AFQD seems to be a measurement of axial compressor...
CSA
Post #2
Jul 8, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
Getting a better understanding of gas turbine control
Neo, Thank you for the kind words. Yes; I agree with your sentence describing the L94T rung. 1) Yes; my comment refers to the L60RB. Remember, the comparator says if TNH <b>is greater than</b> than K60RB, then L600RB will be a logic "1". And, remember, we said that sometimes signal...
CSA
Post #50
Jul 7, 2014
Forum:
Power Generation
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