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110 vac power supply loss in gas turbine running
IF your control system is typical of most GE-provided systems, the only interruption you will experience is loss of communications between the HMI(s) and the Mark VIe due to loss of power to the network switches. Not a small interruption, unfortunately, but as long as the process is...
CSA
Post #3
Jun 16, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
MK IV Temp Control Curve Modification
MS5001fan, I don't understand this statement: > - The unit has always operated with a 100F increase in firing temperature. > This is supported by an average GT exhaust temperature of 1000F while the > GT nameplate is 900F. I don't know the correlation between exhaust temperature...
CSA
Post #5
Jun 15, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Turbine Generator Simulation
Dave, Wow! So many questions.... You are generally correct, but when looking at GE CIMPLICITY displays for GE-design turbines one can NEVER ass-u-me anything. That's because the standard at GE is: There is no standard. Everyone who can edit a CIMPLICITY display is free to use whatever...
CSA
Post #6
Jun 13, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Temperature Control
CcpEng, Consult the Control Specification document provided with the Speedtronic gas turbine control system; specifically Section 03. It will give you as much information as you might need. Also, this topic has been covered <b>MANY</b> times before on control.com. There is a 'Search' field...
CSA
Post #2
Jun 13, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Isolated Generator and Droop Governor
1) You would have to ask the manufacturer or consult the documentation regarding the efficiency of any prime mover, regardless of size or rating. 2) P.U. means "Per Unit". For example, of the rating of the prime mover was 30 KW, then 0.5 p.u. would be 50%, or one half of rated, or 15 KW...
CSA
Post #12
Jun 13, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Gas Turbine Not Cooling
Thomas, Some turbine compartments are under a positive pressure by the turbine compartment vent fans, and some are under a negative pressure (few mm of water vacuum). Ventilation problems can be the result of many things, including leaks of axial compressor discharge air from casing joints...
CSA
Post #2
Jun 13, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Running a DLN 1 Frame 9E mchine with no flame scanners
Logiclover, Personally, I don't like to ass-u-me anything if I can avoid it, and I recommend others do the same whenever possible. There is a move to eliminate combustion turbine flame detectors and just use a sudden change in axial compressor discharge pressure along with a sudden change...
CSA
Post #2
Jun 13, 2013
Forum:
General Automation Chat
GE Gas Turbine accessory and load gear compartments temperature running high
Abdur Rehman, Running with compartment doors open means if a real fire is detected and extinguishing agent is discharged, the extinguishing agent will not be effective because it will not remain in the compartment. Also, air will be allowed to enter the compartment through the open doors...
CSA
Post #2
Jun 12, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Turbine Generator Simulation
Reg reference = regulator reference Reg feedback = regulator feedback Regulator is another (GE) term for servo-valve output. The reg reference and -feedback numbers don't make sense to me, but then we don't know what the null bias currents are set to which might be the reason for the...
CSA
Post #4
Jun 12, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
ERROR OPENING TOOLBOXST
Kwaku, This question is not directed simply at you: Why do people ask why their turbine trips >>WITHOUT<< providing a chronological list of Process Alarms when the turbine trips? Seriously. If one doesn't use the alarm list to troubleshoot a problem--especially a turbine trip--then one...
CSA
Post #6
Jun 11, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
ERROR OPENING TOOLBOXST
Kwaku, YOU asked about a viewer with ControlST. You haven't provide a lot of details about the exact type of Speedtronic and HMI you are working on.... Previous versions of CIMPLICITY used a special AMV object to display alarms. Newer versions of CIMPLICITY don't; they use the AlarmST...
CSA
Post #4
Jun 7, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
calculating motor power draw
Kam, Try this link: http://www.dac-3d.com/Knucklebuster/PDFFiles/E410-S02.pdf (remove any spaces inserted by the forum software) It's been a very long time since I've had to calculate motor performance to such a fine degree, but I believe there are standards which most motor...
CSA
Post #12
Jun 7, 2013
Forum:
General Automation Chat
ERROR OPENING TOOLBOXST
Kwaku, Greetings! 1) Yes. GE HMIs do not participate in or perform any critical control and protection functions; that's all done by the Speedtronic turbine control panel independently of the HMI. Think of the HMI as a "window" into what's going on in the turbine control panel, and, of...
CSA
Post #2
Jun 7, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Frame 6, Mark V GT
Sunil, The Mark V Maintenance Manual, GEH-5980, shows how the IONETs of <R>, <S> and <T> are connected. The IONET runs from the DCC/SDCC, to the TCQC, to the associated TCEA, then to the associated TCDA, and if there's a <QD2> to the associated TCDA in <QD2>. You are taking a huge risk...
CSA
Post #4
Jun 6, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
GE 9FA start up
Shimy, Hopefully, others who read these posts who have 9FAs with liquid fuel will tell us about the configurations at their site(s)! The best way to know for certain is to review the P&IDs, the Control Specification document, and the sequencing or application code running in the...
CSA
Post #2
Jun 6, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
MARK V COMM IO LOSS TRIP
Divyang Shah, The designers of the Mark V "decided" not to show the origination of many signals used in logic that are "written to" by operating system software. L3COMM is one of those signals; it is written to by operating system software running in each of the Mark V processors. There...
CSA
Post #6
Jun 6, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
calculating motor power draw
Steve Myres, Thanks for the link. I'm not accustomed to motors being lightly loaded.... The site explains it very well; reactive load is constant, and therefore power factor will vary with real load! Thanks again; makes perfect sense.
CSA
Post #10
Jun 5, 2013
Forum:
General Automation Chat
Gas Turbine frame V high exhaust temperature
Ayman Elsebaii, I've been following this thread with interest. And this comment has me very curious: > I think with that severity there must have > been dozens of alarms at Mark V log. This being a two-shaft machine, the high vibration seems to have been experienced only on the HP...
CSA
Post #5
Jun 5, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
calculating motor power draw
Kam, One more thing. For most AC motors, when operating at or near rated power they are very efficient at converting electrical power (watts) to mechanical power (torque; horsepower; etc.)--on the order of 95+%, if not higher. Again, that's when at or near rated current/voltage (which should...
CSA
Post #8
Jun 5, 2013
Forum:
General Automation Chat
MARK V COMM IO LOSS TRIP
Divyang Shah, TILs are issued by GE. If the turbine/control system was purchased from GE, they will usually mail (post) them to the site. If the turbine/control system was purchased from a licensee of GE (BHEL, for example) the licensee would usually forward a copy (usually by post) to the...
CSA
Post #4
Jun 5, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
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