Hi you all!
I have a question about Modbus Masters.
I want to know how i can solve the following situation:
I have one system that communicates, using Modbus protocol and RS485 bus, with some network analyzers. I would like to put another master on the line, besides the mentioned above, to make some requests to this network analyzers to.
The problem is that probably with two masters on the line the messages will get screwed and there will be collision for sure.
Is there any hardware device (to which i connect both masters) that i can use to connect both systems that is able to manage the requests on the line? This way this device would buffer the requests from the two masters and avoid problems on the line.
Or is there other way to solve this problem?
Thank you all
LPS
I have a question about Modbus Masters.
I want to know how i can solve the following situation:
I have one system that communicates, using Modbus protocol and RS485 bus, with some network analyzers. I would like to put another master on the line, besides the mentioned above, to make some requests to this network analyzers to.
The problem is that probably with two masters on the line the messages will get screwed and there will be collision for sure.
Is there any hardware device (to which i connect both masters) that i can use to connect both systems that is able to manage the requests on the line? This way this device would buffer the requests from the two masters and avoid problems on the line.
Or is there other way to solve this problem?
Thank you all
LPS
The MARC Multii-Port:
http://www.miille.com/din366-10p.pdf
is commonly used for connecting multiple Modbus Masters to a network of one or more Modbus Slaves. It works as you describe by buffering the messages and only replying to the master that made the request. You can contact me directly if you have any questions. Jmiille [at] miille.com
Thanks,
Miille Applied Research Co., Inc
http://www.miille.com/
Jerry Miille
http://www.miille.com/din366-10p.pdf
is commonly used for connecting multiple Modbus Masters to a network of one or more Modbus Slaves. It works as you describe by buffering the messages and only replying to the master that made the request. You can contact me directly if you have any questions. Jmiille [at] miille.com
Thanks,
Miille Applied Research Co., Inc
http://www.miille.com/
Jerry Miille
Hi,
I think that you would have to find a way to sync the two masters somehow. When one of the masters is communicating, then the other one doesn't, What type of masters are you using, PLCs or PCs?
Also are you using ASCII or RTU?
If you are using the RTU framing protocol, you could extend the silent interval of one of the masters. Instead of a silent interval of 3.5 characters, try setting one of the masters silent interval to something like 5 characters. This might give you enough of a window to perform the communications.
I never had to use two masters before, so if you try it, please use caution.
criders
I think that you would have to find a way to sync the two masters somehow. When one of the masters is communicating, then the other one doesn't, What type of masters are you using, PLCs or PCs?
Also are you using ASCII or RTU?
If you are using the RTU framing protocol, you could extend the silent interval of one of the masters. Instead of a silent interval of 3.5 characters, try setting one of the masters silent interval to something like 5 characters. This might give you enough of a window to perform the communications.
I never had to use two masters before, so if you try it, please use caution.
criders
Hi There,
HMS makes a gateway that is Modbus RTU slave to Modbus RTU slave. Connect one master to one of the slaves and the other master to the other slave. The gateway has a fixed mapping of 512 Bytes In and 512 Bytes Out.
For more info, go to:
http://www.anybus.com/support/support.asp?PID=234&ProdType=Anyb us%20X-gateway
or send me an email at:
support [at] hms.se
//Patrick L
HMS makes a gateway that is Modbus RTU slave to Modbus RTU slave. Connect one master to one of the slaves and the other master to the other slave. The gateway has a fixed mapping of 512 Bytes In and 512 Bytes Out.
For more info, go to:
http://www.anybus.com/support/support.asp?PID=234&ProdType=Anyb us%20X-gateway
or send me an email at:
support [at] hms.se
//Patrick L
Check out the PLC09 Arbitrator (www.calta.com). It was developed for exactly this application.
Regards
Lorne
Regards
Lorne
In the modbus network, there should no more than one master running at the same time.
It is possible to use master multiplexer.
For example: http://www.marcomweb.it/InfoProdotti/157.aspx
With this equipment the two master can have different speed.
Best Regards
For example: http://www.marcomweb.it/InfoProdotti/157.aspx
With this equipment the two master can have different speed.
Best Regards
You are absolutely correct, only one master "at the same time". It is possible to have multiple masters communicating with the same slave if you have some sort of "gatekeeper" module that will control access to the slaves. That is the purpose of the Multii-Port module that I recommended earlier in this thread.
Jerry Miille
Jerry Miille
We manufacture a Gateway that allows two Masters over the same Modbus Slave devices. It is our DX Series and you can find technical information on our Internet site at www.asconcorp.com/library/pdf/delta2/DX-DY_Brochure.pdf
I hope this helps with your application.
I hope this helps with your application.
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