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GE Mark VI not in control state
briq99, Hmmm... I always just follow the procedure for replacing the VCMI in GEH-6421 and I haven't had any problems. The only way I know of to configure the VCMI is by downloading to it using Toolbox. This is another big reason when something like this happens to a working panel (meaning it...
CSA
Post #4
Jun 1, 2020
Forum:
Programmable Logic Controller - PLC
G.E. Part Number for Instruments on frame VI gas turbine system
sirdee90, Do you not have access to the Parts List/Manual provided with the turbine-generator and auxiliaries when they were new? To be sure you receive P/Ns for machine as much like yours as possible, you would need to tell us the age of the unit (when it was installed when it was new). The...
CSA
Post #2
Jun 1, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
GE Mark VI not in control state
briq99, My (painful) similar experience has led me to these practices, but patience is a BIG key under these circumstances: 1) Make sure ALL the IONET cables are good, and that there is no corrosion or discoloration on any of the BNC connectors on the cables, including BNC tee connectors...
CSA
Post #2
Jun 1, 2020
Forum:
Programmable Logic Controller - PLC
SIR - Synchronous inertial response of generators with different inertia constants H
"Synchronous generators respond to load-generation imbalances by accelerating or decelerating (changing speeds). For example, when load increases, generation slows down, effectively releasing some of its inertial energy to compensate for the load increase. Likewise, when load decreases...
CSA
Post #11
May 31, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
SIR - Synchronous inertial response of generators with different inertia constants H
By the way, when you finish with all the maths, can you post the results--indicating how much (in percent) each genrators SIR and H value and MVA rating contribute to Frequency response? Is it 45%, or 72%? Or 2%, or 0.73%? Thanks!
CSA
Post #10
May 31, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
SIR - Synchronous inertial response of generators with different inertia constants H
Good day, Dispatch operators have all kinds of preferences, they are, after all, human. Most of them are thinking human beings that use their experiences to form their preferences. (Some (more and more, actually) just do what they've been told, which is usually, "We've always done it that...
CSA
Post #9
May 31, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
over-speed in munti-shaft gas turbines
vladimir36, Sometimes that's very difficult to do--prevent an overspeed during a load rejection. Other than telling us the turbine is a multi-shaft gas turbine, you really didn't give us anything else to work with. Is the HP/gas generator is tripping on overspeed or the LP/power turbine is...
CSA
Post #2
May 30, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
Evap Coolers and Gas turbine Efficiency
syed taha ahmed, Again, welcome to Control.com. Gas turbines are mass flow machines. This means, the more mass that flows through the unit the higher the output will be. Gas turbines generally operate at a constant speed (or in a limited speed range for mechanical drive units). That means the...
CSA
Post #2
May 29, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
Gas Turbine Start up and Evap Coolers
syed taha ahmed, It would be nice to know what manufacturer's turbine and size of unit you are referring to, as well as the turbine control system being used to control and protect the turbine. Usually when this happens with GE-design heavy duty gas turbines of the B/E class (in other words...
CSA
Post #2
May 29, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
Humidity Sensor 96RH-1 in G.E. 7FA Gas Turbine with Mark V Control
syed taha ahmed, Primarily, humidity sensors are used on GE-design heavy duty gas turbines when water- or steam injection is used for NOx emissions reduction. Even some machines with DLN (Dry Low NOx) combustion systems that burn both gas fuel and liquid fuel may use water- or steam (usually...
CSA
Post #7
May 29, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
Machine Tripping on Over Speed
Controlsguy25 and Engrahmed, "Please note line voltage zero mean fault in transmission line due to any reason while the generator circuit breaker was closed and the turbine-generator was supplying power to the grid and therefore GCB opened due to the over frequency due to the sudden...
CSA
Post #9
May 28, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
Machine Tripping on Over Speed
Controlsguy25, Yes; there are a LOT of things about this scenario that are not clear or understandable. And, yes--you are right. Knowing the turbine manufacturer and turbine control system is kind of important (as is the size/rating of the unit). And about the only way I could think of that...
CSA
Post #4
May 27, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
Machine Tripping on Over Speed
Engrahmed, Most people don't realize it but when a steam turbine is tripped while the generator is producing electrical power (the GCB (Generator Circuit Breaker) is closed and supplying amperes to a load) the first thing that should happen is that the steam turbine stop valves should close...
CSA
Post #3
May 27, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
Proximity vibration sensor
Controlsguy25, When I worked on the Mark IV (which had a black-and-white, text-based CRT and "soft-switches for an operator interface) I would occasionally have to change a few rungs and Control Constants (well, maybe more than just occasionally, but it wasn't ever necessary to make a lot of...
CSA
Post #4
May 26, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
None
Niente.
CSA
Post #2
May 26, 2020
Forum:
Instrumentation & Measurement
Gas fuel system
Ghulam, In the Operations & Service Manuals provided with the turbine-generator and auxiliaries you should find some very good information about the gas fuel system, as well as about the DLN combustion system provided with the turbine-generator at your site. Personally, this is the first time...
CSA
Post #2
May 26, 2020
Forum:
Process Control
Proximity vibration sensor
hussam295, There are NOT any additional proximity sensors on the unit--in addition to the -X and -Y proximity sensors on each turbine bearing, and the ones on the generator (methinks there is something amiss with the generator proximitors....). To gather the required information for vibration...
CSA
Post #2
May 26, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
The jaw clutch is getting disengaged at TNH of 39% speed
To add a little more about "goosing" the expander turbine causing the actual acceleration rate to exceed the acceleration rate reference, when the starting means is disconnected (when the jaw clutch opens) if the actual acceleration is above the required the Mark* will reduce the fuel to try to...
CSA
Post #5
May 24, 2020
Forum:
General Automation Chat
Frame9e vibration sensors
hussam295, Vibration sensors--on any type of rotating equipment--fall into three basic types, depending on the equipment the sensors are installed on and the speed of the equipment and they desired type of measurement. There are velocity vibration sensors, distance vibration sensors and...
CSA
Post #2
May 24, 2020
Forum:
Power Generation
The jaw clutch is getting disengaged at TNH of 39% speed
sonacontrol, Thanks VERY MUCH for the feedback! If I'm not mistaken, on MOST GE-design heavy duty gas turbines 20CS-1 is de-energized when the shaft breaks away from zero speed (during a START). It's the shape of the jaw clutch teeth that keeps the clutch halves engaged during starting, and...
CSA
Post #4
May 24, 2020
Forum:
General Automation Chat
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