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Gas Turbine GE frame 5 Start Up
renjith11121, While the unit is CRANKing after the expected "Failure to Ignite" when the ignitors (spark plugs) were intentionally disabled by removing the power to the ignitor circuit, it will be necessary to restore the power to the igniter (spark plug) circuit before selecting CRANK and...
CSA
Post #13
Jan 28, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
Gas Turbine GE frame 5 Start Up
renjith11121, I neglected to write that the liquid fuel supply pump pressure specification is usually about 55-65 psig; see the Device Summary, or if GE or the turbine packager supplied the Liquid Fuel Forwarding System there will be a P&ID for the system, and the pressure regulator (if...
CSA
Post #12
Jan 28, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
Gas Turbine GE frame 5 Start Up
renjith11121, I did see something about your liquid fuel flow divider pressure readings, and I dismissed them because they were too high for firing pressures. I now see they are probably from FSNL (Full Speed-No Load). And, YES--the pressures are way out of line. The high pressure fuel...
CSA
Post #11
Jan 28, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
Fast load Rate
Gamer123, The only thing which sometimes happens, and usually when the unit is starting from a "cold" condition and the ambient is also cold is that sometimes if one tries to load a unit with DLN combustors too quickly it doesn't make the transfers very well. Mostly happens with DLN-I units...
CSA
Post #6
Jan 27, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
Gas Turbine GE frame 5 Start Up
renjith11121, I want to preface the remarks below by saying the sequences described are for a non-DLN combustor-equipped unit (in other words it is for a unit with conventional, diffusion flame combustors with a single fuel nozzle per combustor), with two flame detectors (possibly four). It's...
CSA
Post #9
Jan 26, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
Fast load Rate
gamer123, On a GE-design heavy duty gas turbine control system, it would be possible to select Fast Load at any load after the generator breaker closes. But, if it was enabled at 41% load (70 MW out of 170 MW) the time to Base Load would be reduced by 41%--so instead of taking, let's say 4...
CSA
Post #4
Jan 25, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
Fast load Rate
Gamer123, I can only address fast loading as implemented on GE-design heavy duty gas turbines. Fast loading is simply a VERY fast loading ramp rate for the gas turbine. For some smaller machines, it can be as fast as 30 seconds from 0 MW to Base Load (25MW, 40 MW, or 80 MW). Larger (F-class)...
CSA
Post #2
Jan 24, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
Gas Turbine GE frame 5 Start Up
renjith11121, I want to preface my reply with this: It is very difficult to ensure reliable starting on distillate fuel of a duel fuel machine. Full stop. Period. It's just not an easy thing to achieve. Can it be done? Yes. Is it common (reliable starting on distillate fuel)? No. So, you and...
CSA
Post #8
Jan 23, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
Cooldown Turbine Frame 5
etoilesh, The first question I have is: Why do you feel it is necessary to have the standby unit continuously on Cooldown? If it's because someone believes that the unit MUST be on Cooldown prior to EVERY start, that's false. If the unit has been off Cooldown for 24 or even 48 hours and it's...
CSA
Post #2
Jan 23, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
Gas Turbine GE frame 5 Start Up
renjith11121, Without being able to see the programming of the A-B ControLogix it's pretty much impossible. All we can do here is talk about typical GE-design Frame 5 heavy duty gas turbine control and protection philosophy. And, I don't have access to any Mark II elementaries; I can only...
CSA
Post #6
Jan 22, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
MOOG G631 3605B Valves
manolis9191, One has to admire your perseverance. I just put "Moog G631" in my preferred World Wide Web search engine, and came up with this as the top result: http://www.moog.com/literature/ICD/g631seriesvalves.pdf There is some really good information, especially on pages 13 and...
CSA
Post #2
Jan 22, 2019
Forum:
Motion Control
Gas Turbine GE frame 5 Start Up
Um, ..., er, ..., Does this turbine have a GE Mark* turbine control system? It would seem to be very difficult to create an HMI display in CIMPLICITY to "reject" exhaust T/Cs--<b>BUT</b> I have seen such screens in WonderWare and FactoryTalk PLC-based turbine control system HMIs.... Most...
CSA
Post #4
Jan 21, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
Mk VI "Excessive Speed Error" Preventing Turbine Roll
Hayoper, I am no steam turbine expert, and while I think I have heard of leaking (worn) steam turbine seals contributing to unintentional roll-off, I have no personal experience with that phenomenon and so won't make a comment one way or the other. I would seem it would take a LOT of steam to...
CSA
Post #4
Jan 20, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
Door Opener on Reefer Container
nzfarmer, You <i>do</i> know what happens when you ass-u-me something.?.?.? Look, I've been wrong before--and I'll be wrong several times in the future. It's just extremely difficult to understand how the three wires (which are connected to two wires, you said) can make a potentiometer or...
CSA
Post #10
Jan 20, 2019
Forum:
Motion Control
Gas Turbine Not Accelerating
mazenshanabeash, This question must be the second most asked question in the history of control.com, only surpassed by questions about Droop speed control. Seriously. Unfortunately, each time this question gets asked and answered it's just a little different--just enough to make it...
CSA
Post #2
Jan 19, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
Door Opener on Reefer Container
nzfarmer, I was searching for a link to a worm gear picture, and I learned something: the thing I was calling a worm gear is actually a worm, and the round, multi-toothed thing I was calling a cog or gear is actually the worm gear. The assembly of the worm gear (sometimes called a worm wheel)...
CSA
Post #8
Jan 18, 2019
Forum:
Motion Control
Questions about Isochronous and Droop
esdauto, In maths, formula and equation mean (describe) the same thing. In my post to this very thread above, of 17 October, 2017, 6:30 pm, the equation (formula) is stated very clearly: >The general Droop speed control formula is: > >Energy flow-rate into prime mover = ((prime mover...
CSA
Post #12
Jan 18, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
GE9E.03 Manual Rotation for BoreScopic Inspection
What a difference a word makes.!.!.! "I have seen people remove the load coupling <b>COVER</b>, .... Remove the load coupling <b>cover</b>, at the generator rotor end of the coupling, then wrap a long, wide nylon strap around the coupling and use a chainfall to pull on the end of the strap...
CSA
Post #3
Jan 18, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
GE9E.03 Manual Rotation for BoreScopic Inspection
I have seen people remove the load coupling, wrap a LONG nylon strap around the load coupling (overlapping the wraps), attach a chainfall to the free end of the strap and the hook of the chainfall to a piece of structural steel nearby, and use the chainfall to slowly rotate the shaft. It is...
CSA
Post #2
Jan 17, 2019
Forum:
Power Generation
Door Opener on Reefer Container
nzfarmer, Many people have posted photos, docs, and videos on web hosting sites, such as www.tinypic.com. They then post the URL to the file(s) in a response to control.com (like you did with the link to the google docs photo). www.tinypic.com is free, but the files don't stay up for a long...
CSA
Post #6
Jan 17, 2019
Forum:
Motion Control
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