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Load sharing of transmission lines
T.Sriram, I believe what we are trying to say here is that the real power flow in the two lines is a function of the reactance of the two lines, the configuration of the substation, and the loads the substation is supplying. It's not simply about the difference in resistance of the two lines...
CSA
Post #6
Jan 28, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Islanding of Parallel Generation
BairdUK, I can address the "real" power output side of your scenario. I'm hoping another contributor, Bruce Durdle, will address the reactive power/island system voltage side of your scenario. As you described your scenario where the 140 MW unit is acting as the Isochronous unit when the...
CSA
Post #2
Jan 28, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
7FA Gas Turbine Crank Cooling
Randy, On a GE-design heavy duty gas turbine it's important that the internal temperatures of the gas turbine be below a certain value before the unit is taken off "turning gear". It can take as long as 24 hours, sometimes longer, for the unit to cool sufficiently while on "turning gear" to...
CSA
Post #8
Jan 27, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
fuel flow in CT
The concept of Cv has been covered many times before on control.com. I believe you can also find some information about Cv and how it's determined on other sites, such as www.wikipedia.org. In my experience, the Cv of a valve is something that is designed and built into the valve and is...
CSA
Post #2
Jan 27, 2013
Forum:
General Automation Chat
New Turbo blower turbine vibration
What does the manufacturer, BHEL, say about the problem? Did the manufacturer recommend running the turbine un-coupled from the blower for any "break-in" period? I know this is sometimes a practice that is done with large AC electric motors, but I've never seen this done with turbines for...
CSA
Post #2
Jan 27, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Trade (Triad ) cable and pair cable
raj, I want to make one more clarification here. Some temperature transmitters use RTDs as their sensor. They are the "monitor/device/control system" to which the RTD is connected. They then convert the RTD resistance input to a mA output, usually, which is then connected to some kind other...
CSA
Post #9
Jan 27, 2013
Forum:
General Automation Chat
Trade (Triad ) cable and pair cable
raj, Are you asking about <i>transmitters</i> or <i>RTDs</i>? This thread is about RTDs, which are NOT transmitters. As for compensation, which is used for RTD measurement, that's done because RTDs are devices that vary their resistance as the temperature in the area they are located...
CSA
Post #8
Jan 26, 2013
Forum:
General Automation Chat
Shaft Horse Power
Ashraf, This is an interesting question I've often considered myself. I don't believe there is a method for calculating the shaft horsepower of the gas generator (high-pressure section) of a two-shaft gas turbine. I don't believe one can attach a dynamometer to the shaft the same way one can...
CSA
Post #2
Jan 25, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Why Minimum Value Gate Used in GT controls?
For digital Speedtronic turbine control systems, as an example, the inputs to the FSR Minimum Value Gate are:<pre> FSRSU FSR Start-up FSRACC FSR Acceleration Control FSRN FSR Speed Control (Droop OR Isochronous) FSRT FSR Temperature Control (Base, Peak, Peak Reserve, if so...
CSA
Post #4
Jan 25, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Trade (Triad ) cable and pair cable
Triad cable is three wires (conductors; cores) that are twisted and shielded, usually in a "plastic" cover/jacket. A triad would only provide you with three wires/conductors/cores, and a properly-applied 4-wire RTD requires 4 (four) wires/conductors/cores. You could use two (2) two-wire...
CSA
Post #6
Jan 24, 2013
Forum:
General Automation Chat
Load sharing of transmission lines
T.Sriram, Some additional clarification, please, and another question. You wrote: > Our line 1 & 2 are connected to substation at a distance of 5.2 KM. Our line 1 length is 5.2 <b>mtrs</b> > and line 2 length is 7 <b>kM</b> as it was taken in a different route. You wrote Lines 1 & -2...
CSA
Post #3
Jan 24, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Droop and isoch
An error and a couple of points of clarification. First, the paragraph: > And as the turbine speed reference is increased to 104% the load will increase > to 25 MW, or 100% of rated. is wrong. It should have read: And as the turbine speed reference is increased to 104% the load will...
CSA
Post #3
Jan 24, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
GT trip on reverse power
Hello, Dear, The latter paragraphs of this thread provide a clue as to how a power island should be operated--either manually or automatically: http://www.control.com/thread/1357683036#1357835439 It's virtually impossible for us to help you with your problem, because we don't have...
CSA
Post #7
Jan 21, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Exhaust gas thermocouple position error
4_20 mA, I have absolutely zero experience with this concept. I do have some experience with aero-derivative gas turbines, but this seems very unusual to me. I don't understand how swirl angle can be related to a measurement differential since even if the temperature of the exhaust at some...
CSA
Post #5
Jan 21, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Why Minimum Value Gate Used in GT controls?
4_20 mA, The Minimum Value Gate is used when there are two or more possible references for a particular parameter, say fuel control valve positioning. The concept is that in order to protect the turbine and axial compressor from overload and/or overtemperature (exhaust overtemperature) the...
CSA
Post #2
Jan 21, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Droop and isoch
Let's say your turbine is rated at 20 MW at Base Load and the unit does not have Peak Load capability. This means that at ISO conditions (usually 59 deg F, 60% relative humidity, at its design altitude and atmospheric pressure, and at rated exhaust back pressure), in a new and clean condition...
CSA
Post #2
Jan 21, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Wheelspace Temperature GE GT Frame 3
GT, First of all, during a CI, nothing that affects the wheelspace cooling (or heating) is changed. Second of all, it is physically IMPOSSIBLE for the temperature of any wheelspace to be so radically different on opposite sides of the unit. The shaft of a Frame 5 is spinning at...
CSA
Post #6
Jan 20, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Wheelspace Temperature GE GT Frame 3
Were the wheelspace T/Cs removed during the CI, and then re-installed after the CI prior to the start-up?
CSA
Post #4
Jan 18, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Isochronous Load Sharing
Aero-derivative units can be loaded and unloaded MUCH faster than heavy-duty units. Most other gas turbines (heavy duty, industrial "Frame" units) usually have slower loading and unloading ramp rates than LM units in Droop Speed Control mode. It's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison...
CSA
Post #8
Jan 18, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
Procedure of screens upgradation from cimplicity 6.1 to 8.2
mhs100, Unfortunately, I cannot. I do not have a copy of CIMPLICITY (PROFICY) on any of my PCs. (Actually, I refuse to install it on any PC I work on; it's a very poorly behaved application.) Just like searching the World Wide Web, be creative in your search words and terms, and don't stop...
CSA
Post #4
Jan 16, 2013
Forum:
Power Generation
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