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Curt Wuollet
Hi Joe
Not exactly, and this isn't a position it's an observation. It's not a decision not to mix it up with the status quo, it's simply not possible to interoperate freely with closed systems until the information and especially the legal barriers are lowered. I do quite a bit of talking to proprietary systems in integrating existing machines and old used stuff. It could hardly be described as easy. If I were to publish the stuff I've done or try to sell it,I'm fairly certain I would have legal problems. Modbus is the only proto I would feel safe with and even there, I can't get clear permission to do so. Individuals or companies who own the equipment can do quite a bit or we on their behalf under their license. Trying to be a go between and solving the problem for all is explicitly prohibited by many, many, licenses. That explains some of the reason why I see problems where many don't see any problem at all. Actually trying to accomplish that mixing and merging would require a legal staff larger than the township I live in and a ton of cash until attitudes change. They (big automation) can come our direction and we'll greet them with open arms but there are a lot of very high hurdles for us even trying to meet them half way. That's why it's wonderful to talk about meeting in the middle, but not very realistic. I'm all ears for real world solutions, because we would like very much to be that neutral go between. I have specifically (see the archives) tried to get quite a few entities to give us legal room to do so and have taken great pains to keep our project absolutely neutral. In a way I'm the perfect person to explain why that's a pipe dream because I know of nobody who has tried harder to provide the vehicle.
Not exactly, and this isn't a position it's an observation. It's not a decision not to mix it up with the status quo, it's simply not possible to interoperate freely with closed systems until the information and especially the legal barriers are lowered. I do quite a bit of talking to proprietary systems in integrating existing machines and old used stuff. It could hardly be described as easy. If I were to publish the stuff I've done or try to sell it,I'm fairly certain I would have legal problems. Modbus is the only proto I would feel safe with and even there, I can't get clear permission to do so. Individuals or companies who own the equipment can do quite a bit or we on their behalf under their license. Trying to be a go between and solving the problem for all is explicitly prohibited by many, many, licenses. That explains some of the reason why I see problems where many don't see any problem at all. Actually trying to accomplish that mixing and merging would require a legal staff larger than the township I live in and a ton of cash until attitudes change. They (big automation) can come our direction and we'll greet them with open arms but there are a lot of very high hurdles for us even trying to meet them half way. That's why it's wonderful to talk about meeting in the middle, but not very realistic. I'm all ears for real world solutions, because we would like very much to be that neutral go between. I have specifically (see the archives) tried to get quite a few entities to give us legal room to do so and have taken great pains to keep our project absolutely neutral. In a way I'm the perfect person to explain why that's a pipe dream because I know of nobody who has tried harder to provide the vehicle.